Some thoughts from our more military-oriented citizens:
The people have spoken. Posted by: Flinert Clunk9181
Or, at least, the 47% of them. Posted by: g(r)omgoru
Bush got elected with a minority of the vote. Its a shitty system for sure, but it does give us the right to go round preaching to the rest of the world about what a great system it is. Posted by: PlaneSPeeker
The American people have voted for the government they want, and they’re gonna get it…good and hard Posted by: Frank G
A win for the Main Stream Media spinmeisters and the debate moderators. A loss for freedom. Posted by: JohnQC
I agree Frank. I know you will appreciate this: this a.m. at a morning P.T. run I asked my peers – “are we the crazy ones or is it the 51% of adult electorate that are fucking idiots?”. All of them, highly educated, sharp, family men, patriots to the fucking core, men who have been in combat, Iraq, Afghan, etc – they know what a leader is, they know what it is to lead companies or battalions in CONUS or overseas — to a man — we are dismayed at last night’s results. We don’t get it. I don’t get it. Actually, that’s wrong, I do get it. We have a society of non-stoic, poorly educated, history-challenged, what’s-in-it-for-me types that can now vote. 40yrs of piss-poor indoctrinated public schools are bearing fruit. And as you so aptly said – the American electorate will get what they wanted. The road to serfdom will just continue unabated. I fear for our constitution and the country my children will fall in on. Posted by: Broadhead6
Many years ago, my late father-in-law – who was in Illinois politics for a while – told me the American people get a much better level of government than they deserve. I thought it pretty cynical, at the time, but have come to understand what he meant. Broadhead 6 explained it. Posted by: Bobby
Yes America has changed. It’s far more urban, not just in the civic boundaries, but in attitude. When Detroits go belly up, the people just displace to another urban area, they don’t go back to the old homesteads. It’s an environment of delicate balance held in place by myriads of systems, just like the body. How fragile that system was amply demonstrated by Katrina and now by Sandy. Humans seek to bring control over their environment and in doing so will trade freedoms with its vagaries for promises that in the long run won’t be able to be kept. Carpe diem.
When the light switch doesn’t magically come on, when the toilets won’t flush, when the refuge won’t disappear, when the fuel doesn’t appear at the pump, when the food vanishes, they really can’t comprehend why. It’s one big Cargo Cult. There is no cause->effect connection. Their solution is to scream louder, throw tantrums, and find someone who’ll bring back the magic. Urban dependency.
Posted by: Procopius2k
Ruck up? WHAT fight?
I got only one recommendation to all of you- if you are in the military now, get out. OUT NOW. You are NOT going to like what it is going to become. Having lived thru the ’70’s force, and seen the absolute dreck, you are going to become demoralized, de-fanged, and de-railed.
Go. Do something else. Because being a ‘soldier’ isn’t going to be career-enhancing adjective any longer.
The timing on your post is pretty amazing. I am supposed to meet with the Retention NCO this morning I ETS in AUG. I can’t bring myself to serve under him for another 4 years.
I think you may find the rugged individualist types may start dropping out now. We gave a lot to this country and have been told time and again, “We don’t want to be like you.” It’s about time we got the message and stopped contributing to a system that takes the best years of our lives, takes our resources, and threatens us if we march to a different beat.
I’m not saying to take active steps to accelerate the decline. Far from it. I’m saying that when the system comes for our sons or our help, we tell it to go eff itself.
Me? I have a plan in the works to live off the grid. I need to close the sale with some others, but it’s a workable plan.
If Romney won, I was headed to the military to join SF. SF is something I have always had this deep desire to do. I am currently a state trooper, happily serving and protecting those in my state, but after last night, I have a real hard time with the idea of willingly making him my CIC. We learned last night that half the country does not want to be responsible, they want free stuff and couldn’t see evil if it looked them in the eye.
Not a quitter but I feel sick this morning.
Got my ready ruck sitting in the corner ready to roll…call me crazy but you won’t call me dead.
Nine- keep the day job. We’re gonna need tons more like you. CO passed legal mary-jane last night, so now our roads are going to be twice as nice. Your job descrip is gonna change with it. The only real change is, in SF you would likely have been SAFER.
It’s gonna get worse before it gets better…
Whew… what a load off! Since according to the vote last night I’m in the minority now…so where do I line up for my free stuff? Huh? I have to quit my job? Ok. What next? Yes, I’m white, oh..that won’t work? I want my Obamaphone, free medical care, free food, free house… uh, what? Now I apparently I have to renounce my citizenship, migrate to Mexico then sneak back in? Ok, I can do that.
On the other hand maybe I’ll continue being an actual asset to society and keep my job so I can help support the other 51% of the population… and pay O’s higher taxes, Ocare, O shit! Either way there won’t be anything left of me.
Hey at least Texas carried Romney 57%…. I wonder if that’s enough for a vote of splitting the state up and seceding??? Hmmm…
Better get the ammo order in fellas… shelves will be bare by end of day. And no Barry, you can’t have my guns, none of them. I’m sure you will try anyway.
Oh- here are some examples of what 70’s ‘initiatives’ got us-
Dodge trucks for tactical vehicles (which begat us Chevy trucks- in DIESEL form)
One prediction? Those coming thru the ranks now, who will not get a chance to deploy, will get all whiney because they don’t have patches and shiney objects to wear. So, they will come up with a ‘participant’ patch to wear on the right. Just so they look ‘even’. All those standing in a formation without a patch on the right- some SGM or commander will not like it. I mean hey, it’s just a stick-on, right?
You can bet on it.
In 2015, the ‘final tour’ will begin. Everything bolted into the ground, everything you can convey on, every public building with a door will be named after BO the First. There will be naming ceremonies like MLK and Geo Washington could only dream about.